Textual variant

Father, forgive them

Editions differ on whether Luke’s crucifixion account includes the saying "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."

In reviewWitnesses: research pending

Variant, not contradiction

This record describes a difference between manuscript witnesses. It is not a claim that passages conflict logically, and it carries no contradiction classification.

Variant unit

Manuscript

Unit: Luke 23:34a
Passages: Luke 23:34
Readings recorded: 2

Text as seeded

Text

The passage text CodexTrace holds, in the seeded translation.

Luke 23:34KJV

Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Readings

Manuscript

Included

The saying stands before the division of the garments.

Translation: Present in the King James Version.

Omitted

The verse begins with the division of the garments.

Translation: Bracketed or footnoted in a number of modern translations.

Witness evidence

Manuscript

Manuscripts, versions and citations supporting each reading, with the source each entry came from.

Research pending. CodexTrace has not curated a witness list for this variant unit, and does not approximate one — an unverified siglum is indistinguishable from a verified one to most readers. Curating this requires attaching witness rows, each with its own source record.

Translation and interpretive impact

Interpretation

Translation impact

Translations differ in whether the saying is bracketed.

Interpretive impact

The saying is one of the most widely cited words from the cross; its textual status is therefore significant well beyond the immediate context.

Manuscript resources

Manuscript

Manuscript evidence has not yet been curated for this record.

Linked contradiction records

Analysis

Claims whose tension may be explained, in whole or part, by this variant.

No contradiction record is linked to this variant.

Sources

Source

[1]
CodexTrace editorial research
CodexTrace. "CodexTrace editorial research". licence: CC-BY-4.0
Critical / scholarlyotherCC-BY-4.0
[2]
King James Version (Authorised Version)
"King James Version (Authorised Version)". licence: public-domain-us
Primarytranslationpublic-domain-usLink unverified

Community

Community discussion requires a configured Supabase project on this deployment. Research pages are unaffected.

Textual variant

Father, forgive them

Ask about this variant

Editions differ on whether Luke’s crucifixion account includes the saying "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."

In reviewWitnesses: research pending

Variant, not contradiction

This record describes a difference between manuscript witnesses. It is not a claim that passages conflict logically, and it carries no contradiction classification.

Variant unit

Manuscript

Unit: Luke 23:34a
Passages: Luke 23:34
Readings recorded: 2

Text as seeded

Text

The passage text CodexTrace holds, in the seeded translation.

Luke 23:34KJV

Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Readings

Manuscript

Included

The saying stands before the division of the garments.

Translation: Present in the King James Version.

Omitted

The verse begins with the division of the garments.

Translation: Bracketed or footnoted in a number of modern translations.

Witness evidence

Manuscript

Manuscripts, versions and citations supporting each reading, with the source each entry came from.

Translation and interpretive impact

Interpretation

Translation impact

Translations differ in whether the saying is bracketed.

Interpretive impact

The saying is one of the most widely cited words from the cross; its textual status is therefore significant well beyond the immediate context.

Manuscript resources

Manuscript

Manuscript evidence has not yet been curated for this record.

Linked contradiction records

Analysis

Claims whose tension may be explained, in whole or part, by this variant.

No contradiction record is linked to this variant.

Sources

Source

[1]
CodexTrace editorial research
CodexTrace. "CodexTrace editorial research". licence: CC-BY-4.0
Critical / scholarlyotherCC-BY-4.0
[2]
King James Version (Authorised Version)
"King James Version (Authorised Version)". licence: public-domain-us
Primarytranslationpublic-domain-usLink unverified

Community

Community discussion requires a configured Supabase project on this deployment. Research pages are unaffected.